The USA has become ATM of foreign wars like Ukraine and Gaza: why?
Is it all a false flag operation as an excuse to genocide (20,000 children killed by Israel’s raids), get the Gaza gasfield, and the canal head-port from northern Gaza to the Red Sea? Time will tell their true intentions, though it's clear that saving the lives of the hostages wasn’t and isn't the priority at all !!!
Each of can, and I hope, will go to the local website of UNRWA and made a contribution, along with a strong statement. I said “If my government won’t, I will.”
Hoping and praying for the day when I see all countries who have stopped funding the UNRWA,and therefore complicit in genocide,taken to court.Ashamed to be British.In fact,totally ashamed to be part of the Western world now.
I am ashamed to be American.........I have, of course, a long history of feeling this about my country.....going back to marching against the Vietnam War....Afghanistan, Iraq, Cuba, too many to name......maybe now that I am so much older, this feels the worse of all......
I'm an American, but not ashamed to be one. I am, however, very much ashamed of, and totally condemn, my government that is supposed to represent me. It does not, and has not, for many years, most especially since 2020.
Francis Boyle deserves the greatest respect and I hope the US and all other countries that have suspended their funding of the UNRWA are held to account. There was a reference that the World Court was founded in 1921. My understanding is that it was much later, in June of 1945, a month after Germany's surrender.
The only sane human response to the genocide that the supremacist Zionist terrorist state inflicts on the native people of Palestine for many decades now is to stop shipping to the indoctrinated Godless Zionist Nazis the murder weapons, and to sanction them until they stop the endless massacre and century-long dispossesion project and realize that those born into the label "Jewish" are NOT superior in value to anyone else and are NOT chosen above anyone else (definitely not by the fake sectarian nationalist "god" that the immature violent zionist fascist brain invented for itself) and that the native people are human beings, equal in value to them, not inferior, and have a right to live in their home and protect themselves from heartless God-rejecting Nazi supremacist violent zionist bullies, who have tried to disposses and destroy the native people from the very first moment that the supremacist zionist immigrants arrived in the middle east from (mostly) eastern europe.
Listen to this Holocaust survivor tell the TRUTH about supremacist mercilesss Nazi Zionism, how deeply it brainwashes and corrupts the heart of Israelis and strips them of all humanity, and its complete negation of the universal values of Judaism, of life, of love, of God.
Right-wing supremacist Zionist mass-murderers and child-abusers do NOT represent Jews
Don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel. But seriously, I 100% agree with you. Thank you for sharing that moving and accurate response. The world needs to hear from more people like you and Hajo Meyer!
Ok, well since you invited me to do so I will just say that in my view the path forward out of this horror is not strictly in political arrangemnts but rather it lies in the heart of people, in the ability/capacity to see the humanity of another before viewing them as a label (palestinian, israeli, muslim, jew), as well as in coming to terms with and acknowledging the IMMENSE AND PROFOUND TRAUMA that each "side" has caused the other and in finding ways to heal together.
(and before I proceed I'd just like to say that unlike most Jews, I'm fully aware that the trauma that supremacist right-wing zionists immigrants caused the local people over the last century - in their brutal ruthless cruel project to disposses, throw out, annihilate, dehumanize and erase of the local people in Palestine - is many many orders of magnitude greater than the other way around (the trauma caused to the zionists immigrants by the resistence of the local people to being dispossesed, massacred, abused and driven out of their home). Some of it is detailed in this shocking documentary https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3psMGQE0iW4 which i can confirm is 100% true to reality based on my own personal experience in the Israeli military. And after watching that docu, I also highly recommend this short video https://youtu.be/CSff-Ip1kZs?si=udYd0XxYz6kbcDMb that details the horrific TRUTH of what is being done, everything that the zionist billionaire-owned media never shows..
This capacity mentioned above, to step out of one's bubble and hear/see the humanity of another before seeing a label (and the stories attached to the label), requires having CONTACT between the "sides" so that they may hear each other's stories and each other's pain, but this contact is prevented and denied becasue of the incredible dominance of the sectarian nationalist divisive ideology in both sides.
As someone who was given at birth the label 'Jewish' and 'Israeli' (but have already long ago seen through their inaccurate, distorting, corrupting, limiting, imprisoning, divisive, sectarian and God-denying nature) I notice that what allows this ongoing horror to happen (not only today but for more than a century now) is that there is such a total SEPARATION AND DISCONNECTION between the "sides" (this is one of the greatest successes of nationalism driven by the ultra-wealthy ruling class, to divide and tribalistically pit against each other those who for centuries lived together, before the introduction of the divisive nationalist mind virus to the region) SEPARATION AND DISCONNECTION so that people from both "sides" have no full understanding of the life experience & trauma experience of those on the "other side".
From what I see, this total DISCONNECTION is exactly what allows people to cheer when "our hero fighters" (whom the other side calls terrorists or invaders/dispossesors) murder, torture, oppress, abuse, slaughter and bomb "them", because each side says "they are evil people who only want to harm us, take our land and kill us/kick us out", and each side has countless examples of actions by the other side that are supposed to "prove" the supposed rightness of their claim.
Each "side" is enclosed and contained within its own SECTARIAN BUBBLE and tells itself its own story, about its trauma and difficulties, and is completely unaware of the life experience and trauma of the "other side".
And so, when the other side reacts (in what it calls self-defense) then the first side interprets it as an attack (becasue of its DISCONNECTION from the stories and sense-making of the other side) and tells a story that "those people on the other side" are evil monsters who only want to harm us for no reason"
It's quite amazing how similar the story that each side tells itself to the story that the other side tells itself, it is practically the SAME STORY - we are the victims here who are only protecting ourselves from the aggression of those evil people over there who only want to harm us and hate us for no reason. We have no one to talk to and negotiate with, they are not human beings, they are sons of Satan who hate us from birth, who only want to destroy us and take our land and kick us out - each side speaks the exact same stories!!
And all this lack of understanding happens simply because there is NO CONTACT between the "sides". This is the tremendous success of nationalism/tribalism, there is a complete disconnection, so that I don't hear the story that the other side tells itself and how they make sense of things, I don't experience their life experience, I don't know anything about their pain, I don't realize how much the story they tell themselves is the same as the story I tell myself, and therefore there is no possibility of experiencing the HUMANITY (the fear, the search for security) that motivates the other, just as it motivates me, and therefore also indifference to the trauma that the other goes through at the hands of "our heroic fighters"
It seems to me that the main engine that drives all of this is that people in the region (and especially Israelis) undergo a very deep conditioning/indoctrination from a very young age into a separative and SECTARIAN RELIGIOUS-NATIONALIST IDENTITY and learn to believe (contrary to what reality shows) that this separate and divisive identity is what will provide them with protection and security, even though it does THE EXACT OPPOSITE!!
This indoctrination into the separative exclucivist religious-nationalist identity is much more than just mental brainwashing, but it is mainly the conditioning the of the nervous system and emotional system into IDENTIFICATION with a nationalist-religious label which causes the emotions and the body to react very strongly to anything that they teach me is at odds with this identity.
Strong reaction that comes from the fact that the body/brain/nervous system has been conditioned to learn - through constant repetition in the first years of life (when the personality is formed), again and again and again, and without questioning - this is who I am, that I am this national-religious identity.
It seems to me that those who have fallen into the abyss of sectarianism/tribalism/nationalism (and especially those whose tribalism also involves divisive, excluding, supremacist and God-denying sectarian religious beliefs) have been conditioned to believe that their saftey & security will be found through group separation and exclusion and a sense of uniqueness from the rest of humanity (a feeling that is so deeply imprinted in those who believe that the label of "Jewish" is who they actually are), that security will be found through an attempt to ensure the safety of ONLY one group of people, only those who were born into the "correct" religious-national label (and anyone who was not born into the correct national-religious label can go to hell. She matters a little but not nearly as much as the Chosen People, the most valuable and important people in the universe). It sounds ridiculous, but this is a VERY common & mainstream worldview in the extremely nationalist, ethnocentric, fascistic & exclucivist Israeli society, and it plays a huge part in what brought about this conflict in the first place, since the very early days of sectarian exclucivist zionist nationalism, and its arrival in the middle east from (mostly) eastern Europe.
To me, this is precisely the blindness of the sectarian nationalist-religious identity: trying to create security ONLY for one group, only for a part of the whole (through division, exclusion, separation from the whole and working to secure the narrow interests of only one nationalist-religious identity), such an attempt - of trying to create security ONLY for the part and ignore what this does to the whole - such an attempt can NEVER ever lead to real security but exactly the opposite - this is the number one factor that creates constant conflict and INSECURITY!!!
TRYING TO CREATE SECTARIAN SECURITY (SECURITY ONLY FOR THE PART AND NOT THE WHOLE, ONLY FOR ME AND MY GROUP) IS THE VERY CAUSE OF INSECURITY!!!
In my understanding, tribalism/nationalism and sectarian divisive exoteric religion (which is the POLAR OPPOSITE of what God/Consciousness actually is) is the great disease and blindness of humanity. Is the most destructive and deadly invention that humans have ever invented (not because we are bad, but because we have not psychologically matured yet, and are still blind, and in our innocent blindness we believed that this is how we will find safety & security, without understanding what we are doing, without realizing that we are actually creating constant INSECURITY when we search for security through the sectarian divisive nationalist-religious identity, when we seek security only for the part and not for the whole).
To me it is absolutely clear that it is the number one cause of human division, separation, antagonism, hatred, conflict, violence, murder and war..
IMHO, the bloodshed can never stop and there will never be security for anyone unless we have the courage to step out of our sectarian bubble and actually listen and truly understand the profound trauma we inflict (this is true for both sides but especially so for Israelis who are incredibly brainwashed and ignorant of the UNSPEAKABLE HORROR CRUELTY INHUMANITY AND TRAUMA that supremacist right-wing zionist immigrants/colonizers inflicted and inflict on the local people.
Without feeling the pain endured and understanding what palestinians are actually reacting to, indoctrinated supremacist zionists will just continue with the murder, abuse, dispossession, cruelty, throwing-out, massacre and erasure of the local people, and keep telling themselves the story that 'they are hostile to us for no reason, simply becasue they are evil antisemite monsters by nature..'
Wow, thank you for all the great information and insights! Yes, the divide-and-conquer strategy has been used by those in power throughout history all around the world, because it is unfortunately extremely effective. If only most people became wise to being manipulated in this way, we as a global society could render it impotent.
As for the zionist indoctrination of Israelis from a young age, I recently listened to this discussion between former IDF Special Forces Miko Peled and Chris Hedges, which confirms that practice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU0Uc-PKe9Y
There must be a permanent ceasefire in Gaza in order to comply with the ICJ ruling. Not with Palestinians suffering under oppressive conditions, but as a place where all live with peace and equality. It is time for Pope Francis to do more than talk. He must go to Gaza and make a stand for peace and freedom.
If you haven't seen this, it's one of the greatest roundtables I've ever witnessed: Consortium News: "CN Live! — ICJ Rules on Israel: Craig Murrray, Alexander Mercouris, Ray McGovern and Francis Boyle discuss the meaning of the World Court’s ruling on Israel." https://consortiumnews.com/2024/01/27/watch-cn-live-icj-rules-on-israel/
And Birdbrain is the pick of The Dumbocraps as “President “ in November. What does that tell you about the corrupt, incompetent, illegitimate, & racist American “government “?
I'd argue Jill Stein is. And maybe Cornell West? Unfortunately, neither of them are good enough on all the other very important issues facing this country and the world.
Who do these people get dressed up in suits for? … they don't give a flying f*** about anybody but themselves. Don't get me wrong, I love find tailoring
All we are saying is give peace a chance!
The USA has become ATM of foreign wars like Ukraine and Gaza: why?
Is it all a false flag operation as an excuse to genocide (20,000 children killed by Israel’s raids), get the Gaza gasfield, and the canal head-port from northern Gaza to the Red Sea? Time will tell their true intentions, though it's clear that saving the lives of the hostages wasn’t and isn't the priority at all !!!
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/all-we-are-saying-is-give-peace-a
Each of can, and I hope, will go to the local website of UNRWA and made a contribution, along with a strong statement. I said “If my government won’t, I will.”
Hoping and praying for the day when I see all countries who have stopped funding the UNRWA,and therefore complicit in genocide,taken to court.Ashamed to be British.In fact,totally ashamed to be part of the Western world now.
I am ashamed to be American.........I have, of course, a long history of feeling this about my country.....going back to marching against the Vietnam War....Afghanistan, Iraq, Cuba, too many to name......maybe now that I am so much older, this feels the worse of all......
I'm an American, but not ashamed to be one. I am, however, very much ashamed of, and totally condemn, my government that is supposed to represent me. It does not, and has not, for many years, most especially since 2020.
Francis Boyle deserves the greatest respect and I hope the US and all other countries that have suspended their funding of the UNRWA are held to account. There was a reference that the World Court was founded in 1921. My understanding is that it was much later, in June of 1945, a month after Germany's surrender.
Thank you Dr. Boyle for being such a beacon for justice. The legal characterizations and legal tools presented, are of an outstanding importance!
The only sane human response to the genocide that the supremacist Zionist terrorist state inflicts on the native people of Palestine for many decades now is to stop shipping to the indoctrinated Godless Zionist Nazis the murder weapons, and to sanction them until they stop the endless massacre and century-long dispossesion project and realize that those born into the label "Jewish" are NOT superior in value to anyone else and are NOT chosen above anyone else (definitely not by the fake sectarian nationalist "god" that the immature violent zionist fascist brain invented for itself) and that the native people are human beings, equal in value to them, not inferior, and have a right to live in their home and protect themselves from heartless God-rejecting Nazi supremacist violent zionist bullies, who have tried to disposses and destroy the native people from the very first moment that the supremacist zionist immigrants arrived in the middle east from (mostly) eastern europe.
Listen to this Holocaust survivor tell the TRUTH about supremacist mercilesss Nazi Zionism, how deeply it brainwashes and corrupts the heart of Israelis and strips them of all humanity, and its complete negation of the universal values of Judaism, of life, of love, of God.
Right-wing supremacist Zionist mass-murderers and child-abusers do NOT represent Jews
https://x.com/DoubleDownNews/status/1751311095602598037?s=20
PS. I'm ex-Israeli by the way
Don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel. But seriously, I 100% agree with you. Thank you for sharing that moving and accurate response. The world needs to hear from more people like you and Hajo Meyer!
Ok, well since you invited me to do so I will just say that in my view the path forward out of this horror is not strictly in political arrangemnts but rather it lies in the heart of people, in the ability/capacity to see the humanity of another before viewing them as a label (palestinian, israeli, muslim, jew), as well as in coming to terms with and acknowledging the IMMENSE AND PROFOUND TRAUMA that each "side" has caused the other and in finding ways to heal together.
(and before I proceed I'd just like to say that unlike most Jews, I'm fully aware that the trauma that supremacist right-wing zionists immigrants caused the local people over the last century - in their brutal ruthless cruel project to disposses, throw out, annihilate, dehumanize and erase of the local people in Palestine - is many many orders of magnitude greater than the other way around (the trauma caused to the zionists immigrants by the resistence of the local people to being dispossesed, massacred, abused and driven out of their home). Some of it is detailed in this shocking documentary https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3psMGQE0iW4 which i can confirm is 100% true to reality based on my own personal experience in the Israeli military. And after watching that docu, I also highly recommend this short video https://youtu.be/CSff-Ip1kZs?si=udYd0XxYz6kbcDMb that details the horrific TRUTH of what is being done, everything that the zionist billionaire-owned media never shows..
This capacity mentioned above, to step out of one's bubble and hear/see the humanity of another before seeing a label (and the stories attached to the label), requires having CONTACT between the "sides" so that they may hear each other's stories and each other's pain, but this contact is prevented and denied becasue of the incredible dominance of the sectarian nationalist divisive ideology in both sides.
As someone who was given at birth the label 'Jewish' and 'Israeli' (but have already long ago seen through their inaccurate, distorting, corrupting, limiting, imprisoning, divisive, sectarian and God-denying nature) I notice that what allows this ongoing horror to happen (not only today but for more than a century now) is that there is such a total SEPARATION AND DISCONNECTION between the "sides" (this is one of the greatest successes of nationalism driven by the ultra-wealthy ruling class, to divide and tribalistically pit against each other those who for centuries lived together, before the introduction of the divisive nationalist mind virus to the region) SEPARATION AND DISCONNECTION so that people from both "sides" have no full understanding of the life experience & trauma experience of those on the "other side".
From what I see, this total DISCONNECTION is exactly what allows people to cheer when "our hero fighters" (whom the other side calls terrorists or invaders/dispossesors) murder, torture, oppress, abuse, slaughter and bomb "them", because each side says "they are evil people who only want to harm us, take our land and kill us/kick us out", and each side has countless examples of actions by the other side that are supposed to "prove" the supposed rightness of their claim.
Each "side" is enclosed and contained within its own SECTARIAN BUBBLE and tells itself its own story, about its trauma and difficulties, and is completely unaware of the life experience and trauma of the "other side".
And so, when the other side reacts (in what it calls self-defense) then the first side interprets it as an attack (becasue of its DISCONNECTION from the stories and sense-making of the other side) and tells a story that "those people on the other side" are evil monsters who only want to harm us for no reason"
It's quite amazing how similar the story that each side tells itself to the story that the other side tells itself, it is practically the SAME STORY - we are the victims here who are only protecting ourselves from the aggression of those evil people over there who only want to harm us and hate us for no reason. We have no one to talk to and negotiate with, they are not human beings, they are sons of Satan who hate us from birth, who only want to destroy us and take our land and kick us out - each side speaks the exact same stories!!
And all this lack of understanding happens simply because there is NO CONTACT between the "sides". This is the tremendous success of nationalism/tribalism, there is a complete disconnection, so that I don't hear the story that the other side tells itself and how they make sense of things, I don't experience their life experience, I don't know anything about their pain, I don't realize how much the story they tell themselves is the same as the story I tell myself, and therefore there is no possibility of experiencing the HUMANITY (the fear, the search for security) that motivates the other, just as it motivates me, and therefore also indifference to the trauma that the other goes through at the hands of "our heroic fighters"
It seems to me that the main engine that drives all of this is that people in the region (and especially Israelis) undergo a very deep conditioning/indoctrination from a very young age into a separative and SECTARIAN RELIGIOUS-NATIONALIST IDENTITY and learn to believe (contrary to what reality shows) that this separate and divisive identity is what will provide them with protection and security, even though it does THE EXACT OPPOSITE!!
This indoctrination into the separative exclucivist religious-nationalist identity is much more than just mental brainwashing, but it is mainly the conditioning the of the nervous system and emotional system into IDENTIFICATION with a nationalist-religious label which causes the emotions and the body to react very strongly to anything that they teach me is at odds with this identity.
Strong reaction that comes from the fact that the body/brain/nervous system has been conditioned to learn - through constant repetition in the first years of life (when the personality is formed), again and again and again, and without questioning - this is who I am, that I am this national-religious identity.
It seems to me that those who have fallen into the abyss of sectarianism/tribalism/nationalism (and especially those whose tribalism also involves divisive, excluding, supremacist and God-denying sectarian religious beliefs) have been conditioned to believe that their saftey & security will be found through group separation and exclusion and a sense of uniqueness from the rest of humanity (a feeling that is so deeply imprinted in those who believe that the label of "Jewish" is who they actually are), that security will be found through an attempt to ensure the safety of ONLY one group of people, only those who were born into the "correct" religious-national label (and anyone who was not born into the correct national-religious label can go to hell. She matters a little but not nearly as much as the Chosen People, the most valuable and important people in the universe). It sounds ridiculous, but this is a VERY common & mainstream worldview in the extremely nationalist, ethnocentric, fascistic & exclucivist Israeli society, and it plays a huge part in what brought about this conflict in the first place, since the very early days of sectarian exclucivist zionist nationalism, and its arrival in the middle east from (mostly) eastern Europe.
To me, this is precisely the blindness of the sectarian nationalist-religious identity: trying to create security ONLY for one group, only for a part of the whole (through division, exclusion, separation from the whole and working to secure the narrow interests of only one nationalist-religious identity), such an attempt - of trying to create security ONLY for the part and ignore what this does to the whole - such an attempt can NEVER ever lead to real security but exactly the opposite - this is the number one factor that creates constant conflict and INSECURITY!!!
TRYING TO CREATE SECTARIAN SECURITY (SECURITY ONLY FOR THE PART AND NOT THE WHOLE, ONLY FOR ME AND MY GROUP) IS THE VERY CAUSE OF INSECURITY!!!
In my understanding, tribalism/nationalism and sectarian divisive exoteric religion (which is the POLAR OPPOSITE of what God/Consciousness actually is) is the great disease and blindness of humanity. Is the most destructive and deadly invention that humans have ever invented (not because we are bad, but because we have not psychologically matured yet, and are still blind, and in our innocent blindness we believed that this is how we will find safety & security, without understanding what we are doing, without realizing that we are actually creating constant INSECURITY when we search for security through the sectarian divisive nationalist-religious identity, when we seek security only for the part and not for the whole).
To me it is absolutely clear that it is the number one cause of human division, separation, antagonism, hatred, conflict, violence, murder and war..
IMHO, the bloodshed can never stop and there will never be security for anyone unless we have the courage to step out of our sectarian bubble and actually listen and truly understand the profound trauma we inflict (this is true for both sides but especially so for Israelis who are incredibly brainwashed and ignorant of the UNSPEAKABLE HORROR CRUELTY INHUMANITY AND TRAUMA that supremacist right-wing zionist immigrants/colonizers inflicted and inflict on the local people.
Without feeling the pain endured and understanding what palestinians are actually reacting to, indoctrinated supremacist zionists will just continue with the murder, abuse, dispossession, cruelty, throwing-out, massacre and erasure of the local people, and keep telling themselves the story that 'they are hostile to us for no reason, simply becasue they are evil antisemite monsters by nature..'
https://oneworldrenaissance.com/2021/01/23/holism-fragmentation-and-our-endangered-future-a-new-vision-and-a-new-hope/
Wow, thank you for all the great information and insights! Yes, the divide-and-conquer strategy has been used by those in power throughout history all around the world, because it is unfortunately extremely effective. If only most people became wise to being manipulated in this way, we as a global society could render it impotent.
As for the zionist indoctrination of Israelis from a young age, I recently listened to this discussion between former IDF Special Forces Miko Peled and Chris Hedges, which confirms that practice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU0Uc-PKe9Y
If the US doesn’t back down, the ICC and the ICJ are pretty much dead, as is the entire credibility of the UN.
There must be a permanent ceasefire in Gaza in order to comply with the ICJ ruling. Not with Palestinians suffering under oppressive conditions, but as a place where all live with peace and equality. It is time for Pope Francis to do more than talk. He must go to Gaza and make a stand for peace and freedom.
Please sign the petition and share widely.
https://chng.it/CRQ7qw4Gzn
Codepink:
https://www.codepink.org/cnngaza?utm_campaign=12_15_pali_update_alert_3&utm_medium=email&utm_source=codepink
Ceasefire Now
https://www.change.org/p/sign-and-share-this-urgent-petition-calling-for-a-ceasefirenow-in-gaza-and-israel
These are a few small things we can do. If we can do more, let us do more.
If you haven't seen this, it's one of the greatest roundtables I've ever witnessed: Consortium News: "CN Live! — ICJ Rules on Israel: Craig Murrray, Alexander Mercouris, Ray McGovern and Francis Boyle discuss the meaning of the World Court’s ruling on Israel." https://consortiumnews.com/2024/01/27/watch-cn-live-icj-rules-on-israel/
Yes...definitely worth watching.....
And Birdbrain is the pick of The Dumbocraps as “President “ in November. What does that tell you about the corrupt, incompetent, illegitimate, & racist American “government “?
Birds are exceptionally intelligent. It was only the bias and stupidity of our own species that prevented us from knowing this.
Trump isn't any better on this issue. In fact, there is not one single candidate who is good on this issue.
I'd argue Jill Stein is. And maybe Cornell West? Unfortunately, neither of them are good enough on all the other very important issues facing this country and the world.
I’ll probably vote for West, but I was really referring to the candidates that we’ll actually be allowed to select from.
We can vote for whichever candidate we want via write-in (in most states anyways).
Who do these people get dressed up in suits for? … they don't give a flying f*** about anybody but themselves. Don't get me wrong, I love find tailoring